DRAFT Official Draft Day LIVE Discussion Thread - Night 2

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Sep 27th

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Kdo5

Pro Bowl Player
Ok, now talk about their WR3 and 4 (they stunk) their elite TE (Watson lead them with 22/209 and 2 TDs) and their starting RB (Sammy Morris bc Maroney sucked then was put IR), not to mention their aging defense that suffered multiple significant injuries and mediocre (at best) CB group.
RANDY MOSS AND WES WELKER. Enough ****ing said. Stop you are making a massive joke out of yourself.
 

DaBruinz

Pats, B's, Sox
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Asiasi in-line, Keanu move TE? Same as gronk/murderer? In role not talent level.
Keene is actually the taller and more athletic of the two.

Murderer was shorter than Gronk. He was faster, but not as strong.
 

patsrj

Practice Squad Player
I have the impression that we overpayed for the trades.. Would like to see the value of the picks.. Anyone has it?
 

Bill Lee

What, me worry?
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It has nothing to do with politics. I just hate the fakeness of it all. We all appreciate people making sacrifices right now but we don’t run around praising them nonstop merely for attention.
This is the NFL. They just got Bud to sponsor booing Goodell. Fakeness is their thing.
 

Kdo5

Pro Bowl Player
Last year's team featured a TE1 that the team cut just before the season because it didn't think the player was good enough to even be on the team, and had to bring back weeks later.
Last year's team feature WRs getting dumped all over the place, and getting replaced by WRs who had no business being on the field as rookies.
Last year's team featured an OL that was comprised of a bunch of players who were injured, and a missing center.
Last year's team featured a very important FB position that was devastated to the point that a backup LB had to take over the role.


And Brady helped get that team to 12-4. Now we're supposed to believe that he's, at best, 2 games better than a QB who's a second year player, taken in the fourth round, and basically never played a down in the league.

Anything's possible in life. This just isn't very likely.
We were 12-4??? Holy **** I must have blocked that season out my memory I thought we had less wins than that.
 

DaBruinz

Pats, B's, Sox
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Did Adam Trautman (aka the 2nd-best TE in the Entire Feckin Draft) piss on Little Old Billy's puppy-dog or something?

What an absolutely feckin Horrible display of asset management on display tonight...Just feckin disgraceful...No feckin 4th-rounders at all now...Inexcusable...
Thank you for proving, yet again, that no one should listen to you when it comes to BB and the draft.
 

manxman2601

Hall of Fame Poster
Hope you’re right on the TEs. I think they are mediocre relative to this years TEs. I’ll have to watch them a bit, but they seem similar more than complimentary to me. Only one can live kind of thing between the two of them. Don’t like the Bama pick. Hope I’m wrong. Agree totally on the first 2 picks.
I will admit that I’ve not studied the players this year and am going on what is being said about them on Twitter and that my giddiness is influenced by not being invested in particular binkies this year.

I think this draft could be something like 2013 where we got Collins-Ryan-Harmon. I would absolutely take that. Three significant contributors is a successful draft.
 

BaconGrundleCandy

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Asiasi in-line, Keanu move TE? Same as gronk/murderer? In role not talent level.
I hoping we use both in various ways. Keene is a demon in space. A little muscle could go a long way to helping him square up ane sustain inline. He's not bad or poor. I think he can be a good enough inline blocker and + stalk blocker/blocking in space. He has some dog to him. Some nasty. He'll play past the whistle. Effort is ++ and has decent size around 250. That's half the battle. Lets get him in a program, practice for a year and I think he's a good player.

I'm not looking for Gronk & Hernandez.

I'm looking for + blocking all around from different positions. 375-500 yards/5-7 TDs. If they can do that from different positions the picks are hits.
 

DaBruinz

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Two seriously high upside picks in the first two picks, a solid potential future starter in Jennings and whilst the TEs aren’t special (none in the class were really), they look to be complimentary and have some upside.
If Keene has the upside that Kyed mentioned, then he was a steal at the end of the 3rd round. That being said. I'd be happy if both turn into solid players for the next 4 years.
 

Ring 6

PatsFans.com Wall of Fame Member
  • Last year's team featured a TE1 that the team cut just before the season because it didn't think the player was good enough to even be on the team, and had to bring back weeks later, as that TE1.
  • Last year's team feature WRs getting dumped all over the place, and getting replaced by WRs who had no business being on the field as rookies.
  • Last year's team featured an OL that was comprised of a bunch of players who were injured, and a missing center.
  • Last year's team featured a very important FB position that was devastated to the point that a backup LB had to take over the role.

And Brady helped get that team to 12-4. Now we're supposed to believe that he's, at best, 2 games better than a QB who's a second year player, taken in the fourth round, and basically never played a down in the league.

Anything's possible in life. This just isn't very likely.
Honest question which of the 12 wins last year would have been losses with average Qb play?
 

Patriot Missile

Pro Bowl Player
I just don’t see terrible in their immediate future provided the oline stays healthy. Honestly believe the run game will improve drastically with Andrews back and if these two te’s can block at the next level. Stidham needs to be good. Not great, but better than decent. Not winning a championship but 9-7 10-6 is not out of the question.
 

PatriotReign

In the Starting Line-Up
The saints gave up four picks to move up so I can't be that mad. Although I wish we had taken the TE from Dayton like they did.
 

Ring 6

PatsFans.com Wall of Fame Member
I hoping we use both in various ways. Keene is a demon in space. A little muscle could go a long way to helping him square up ane sustain inline. He's not bad or poor. I think he can be a good enough inline blocker and + stalk blocker/blocking in space. He has some dog to him. Some nasty. He'll play past the whistle. Effort is ++ and has decent size around 250. That's half the battle. Lets get him in a program, practice for a year and I think he's a good player.

I'm not looking for Gronk & Hernandez.

I'm looking for + blocking all around from different positions. 375-500 yards/5-7 TDs. If they can do that from different positions the picks are hits.
I’m not saying I’m looking for Gronkowski or Hernandez either I’m talking about which role they fit.
If I get your answer correctly they would be competing for a job and either could be TE1.
If we were to run a 2 TE offense I would see asiasi as the the traditional TE and Keene as the move te/hback.
Would you agree or no?
 

manxman2601

Hall of Fame Poster
If Keene has the upside that Kyed mentioned, then he was a steal at the end of the 3rd round. That being said. I'd be happy if both turn into solid players for the next 4 years.
That’s all we need. We can upgrade when the right player comes along.
 

DaBruinz

Pats, B's, Sox
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First one was dead even in assigned value.
Umm.. We weren't talking about Trade Value. He was comparing the talents of the two sets of TEs..

Keene is slightly taller and slightly faster than Asiasi. Compared Gronk being 6'6 264 to the other's 6'2- 245
 
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