BGC 2020 WR'S/PTP Thread

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Patriot Missile

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If i had to choose one winner from the wrs it would be Mims. He was great at everything he did.

Also liked chase Claypool combine results, he is built like Megatron.

Jeudy and lamb 40 time were a little slower than I expected, but maybe my expectations were too high.
Claypool had a great combine. Was not expecting him to run so well. Not too worried about Jeudy and Lambs 40 times. They play fast and its easy to see with the eyes as it really didn’t matter who they played against, big school, small school, the tape was great.
 

sircole

Third String But Playing on Special Teams
2020 NFL Scouting Combine winners/losers: WRs

Aaron Fuller, WR, Washington
Fuller's lack of size (5-foot-11) and below-average 40 time (4.59) mean little to me. The former Husky was the most natural hands-catcher in the first group of receivers. While not huge or extremely fast, his route-running was quick and reliable. I don't know how high Fuller will be drafted, but he'll likely still be waiting to go long after his quarterback has heard his name called. Teams willing to overlook his measurables and rely more on his game tape and combine performance, however, should take a shot on his talent.
John Hightower, WR, Boise State
After posting testing results that were among the best in his group (4.43 40, 1.49 10-yard split, 38.5-inch vertical), Hightower caught the ball well in drills. He displayed a nice catch radius, snatching high passes out of the air smoothly on multiple occasions. Teams looking to find a potential playmaker in the vertical game late on Day 2 of the draft should have been paying attention.
CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma
The competition between the top three receivers in the class (Lamb, Jerry Jeudy and Henry Ruggs III) remained tight after Thursday's workout. Lamb won out with the catch of the night, displaying his elite body control and superb hands to stretch for a high, hot pass on the sideline, keeping his feet in-bounds. The other receivers shouted in approval after the grab. Jeudy also had a nice night, besting Lamb slightly in the 40 (4.45 vs. 4.50) and showing off his elite agility and late hands to snatch the ball from the air. The final member of the top-notch triumvirate, Jeudy's Tide teammate Ruggs, had to ice his quad after his combine-best sub-4.3 40-yard dashes, sitting out the rest of the night. That helped Lamb's circus catch make a final, lasting impression to add to his solid overall evening -- giving him the crown as the best of the trio.
Quez Watkins, WR, Southern Miss
Watkins made headlines with a 4.35 40, but that's not the primary reason I included him on this list. Effortless movement in drills and smooth hands on catches made him a standout among the first group of receivers. The underclassman entrant did not get much pub while starring in Conference USA the past two seasons. Scouts noted his all-around effort on Thursday, though -- he's likely to have clinched a top-150 spot with his performance and on-field production. The ultimate test for Watkins (and the other receivers listed here) will be trying to get off physical coverage at the next level, something he didn't have to do on Thursday.
Laviska Shenault Jr., WR, Colorado
It was expected that Shenault would run in the 4.5s but he posted a time on the low end of the expected range (4.58 seconds) and then didn't run a second 40 or compete in any other drills. It's not yet clear if he suffered an injury during his run, but it was certainly not the showing he hoped for in a year that features an extremely deep pool of talent at his position. His 40 time is not bad at all for a 227-pound receiver, and I suspect it will improve at his pro day (40 times are usually better at pro days). Shenault's run-after-catch ability is among the class' best, and no workout can (or should) take that away from him. However, on this occasion, he was unable to close the gap on the top-end receivers in the class.
2020 NFL Scouting Combine winners/losers: Justin Herbert stars
 

Ochmed Jones

Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal
Watched a lot of tape on the Notre Dame receiver carpool.

I did not realize, he was a gunner for Notre Dame special teams, and he made a bunch of tackles,

I think bb has this kid on his draft board for sure!
 

patsrj

Practice Squad Player
Shenault's having core muscle surgery, as per NFLN...Say buh-bye to any 1st-round consideration he may have had remaining...
It might affected his combine results, his 40 time was slower than expected. He'd be great value in the 2nd round.

About carpool, I was really impressed with his performance. I'll try to watch more tape on him.
But for anyone who has, what your take about his route tree and ability to create separation?
 

BaconGrundleCandy

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Watched a lot of tape on the Notre Dame receiver carpool.

I did not realize, he was a gunner for Notre Dame special teams, and he made a bunch of tackles,

I think bb has this kid on his draft board for sure!
He's a 4 down player. Been on the PTP before the year.
 

BaconGrundleCandy

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It might affected his combine results, his 40 time was slower than expected. He'd be great value in the 2nd round.

About carpool, I was really impressed with his performance. I'll try to watch more tape on him.
But for anyone who has, what your take about his route tree and ability to create separation?
You asking about Claypools ability to separate and rr .. Or Shenault?
 

EddardSnow67

On the Game Day Roster
Claypool is really difficult to disrupt off the LOS with a ton of strength and length, above average at high-pointing (his timing can be slightly off at times but he's usually catching jump balls even if that's the case with his length, athleticism and very consistent concentration. He had some trouble with drops in 2018, but he was extremely reliable this past season.

He's a high effort player, a very good blocker in space, adequate ability after the catch. Matchup nightmare, plus he has special teams value. I would love to snag him with a second rounder. The kid has also had a chip on his shoulder since high school. I know Belichick generally avoids ND players, but I've followed Chase since he was a recruit (I'm active on ND football and recruiting sites) and I think he has a much higher ceiling and floor than he's been given credit for to this point.

There has been a stigma against ND skill players (except tight end, of course) for a long time with their explosiveness and athleticism being questioned, but that's been inaccurate over the past few seasons, as they've really ramped up recruiting and development. Kelly and his staff have turned ND back into a consistent source of legitimate NFL talent.

ND players are also generally smart, humble and coachable.
 

BaconGrundleCandy

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He's a physical guy. If you press him you definitely need to make it count or he'll use his natural length and strength to win. I've used the term "natural separation" before and he has it. Just knows how/when to move to create space.
He's a + blocker. 4 Down Player. Lots of untapped potential from a technique standpoint.

He does have to get better off the line. Again he uses his physical strengths very well but not a ton nuance with his release.

I assume he'd be a flex/move, piece for us considering Harry but who knows.

+MOF/Outside #'s

Harry and Claypool would be two nasty blockers. Big bodies with contested catch ability.

We need another slot option. Jefferson would be a perfect complement here.
 

Ochmed Jones

Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal
He's a physical guy. If you press him you definitely need to make it count or he'll use his natural length and strength to win. I've used the term "natural separation" before and he has it. Just knows how/when to move to create space.
He's a + blocker. 4 Down Player. Lots of untapped potential from a technique standpoint.

He does have to get better off the line. Again he uses his physical strengths very well but not a ton nuance with his release.

I assume he'd be a flex/move, piece for us considering Harry but who knows.

+MOF/Outside #'s

Harry and Claypool would be two nasty blockers. Big bodies with contested catch ability.

We need another slot option. Jefferson would be a perfect complement here.
this draft has a ton of really good slot receivers. Plus Myers works best out of the slot,
 

miloofcroton

On the Game Day Roster
Power WR Rankings
Chase Claypool - A freak that can dominate 1 on 1.
Tee Higgins - Solid, unspectacular
Juwan Johnson - Solid, unspectacular
Denzel Mims - I consider him a bigger guy who's not as fast as his timed 40, but he can stretch the field a bit
Shenault - Everyone knows he's strong, but he can't get separation, and he doesn't make a lot of great efforts for the football. He's a glorified Cordarelle Patterson.
Brandon Aiyuk
Michael Pittman - can't separate
Dezmon Patton - can't separate

Finesse WR Rankings
Jefferson - Love this cat. Fantastic body control and routes. He's a huge threat in the midrange, from the inside and the outside. He looks like a future star.
CeeDee Lamb - I'd take him over Jeudy but after Jefferson. Elite quickness and hands. Not a deep threat but he can own a defense in the midrange.
KJ Hamler - He's just going to be unguardable by a lot of guys, and he's such a threat in the open field.
Jeudy - great routes but will his catching ability be good enough to make him a #1? I don't bet on it. What's a guy that's always open that you can't depend on? And maybe his catching is fine. I just have my concerns.
Henry Ruggs - I'm skeptical. Speed and what else.
Quez Watkins - Also made of speed but can be had a whole lot cheaper.
Darnell Mooney
Devin Duvernay


My favorite guys are Jefferson and Hamler. Watkins is my fav sleeper.

Lots of guys, so I didn't get around to ranking everyone.
 
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Scotty

Third String But Playing on Special Teams
There are a few listed above that I would hope we select , but R1 or R3 ?.
 

Ras-IR Dowling

Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
Shenault's having core muscle surgery, as per NFLN...Say buh-bye to any 1st-round consideration he may have had remaining...
This could be good news since we should be looking wr day2. Don’t know if he slips to round 3 but I would love to package a few picks to get him round 2.
 

zimmy

Third String But Playing on Special Teams
I'm a big Jefferson fan too. Eats in the middle of the field, has great hands and is a nuanced route runner. Doesn't seem as athletic as his timed speed suggests but he catches everything. Would take him at 23.

I also love me some Brandon Aiyuk. He is an absolute weapon with the ball in his hands and just separates so easily. He also plays faster than his timed 4.5 speed. Would happily take him at the top of the 2nd if we trade down.

Also like KJ Hamler in the late 2nd if we can move around the draft board.
 
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