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  1. sircole

    sircole Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Winfield’s injury history is extensive. His speed is questionable.

    a good combine and he could make himself a lot of money.
     
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    sircole Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    sircole Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    2020 NFL Draft: Grant Delpit and the perils of the hype monster

    2020 NFL Draft: Grant Delpit and the perils of the hype monster | PFN
     
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    I don't know.
    Maybe he thinks that he can solve his tackling issues. Besides of this, Delpit could be our Chung Replacement regarding Run Defense and Coverage Skills.
     
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    Snooky97 In the Starting Line-Up

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    Delpit did suffer injuries this season that affected his ability to tackle. His range is better than he gets credit for.
     
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    sircole Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    No, Grant Delpit has tackling issues.

    They were there in LSU second game of the season at Texas, especially against Devin Duvernay, and he wasn't injured before that game because the week before they were going half-speed demolishing Georgia Southern in their opener.

    The issues were also present in his 2018 stats and he wasn't injured then either.

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    Now he can clean them up, but tackling is a consistent weakness of his.
     
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    Snooky97 In the Starting Line-Up

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    Even though there is an issue with it, I still think he’s worth it. Tackling issues can be sorted. His ankle plagued him and made a difference
     
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    sircole Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    He could still be worth a pick, but at what draft capital cost?

    For me, #23 in the first round is too much for a safety with tackling issues.

     
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    2020 NFL Scouting Combine winners/losers: S

    Jeremy Chinn, S, Southern Illinois

    K'Von Wallace, S, Clemson
    Geno Stone, S, Iowa
     
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    This is just a hunch, but I think they'd rather get two free safeties than commit to another guy who's a bit of a liability in coverage. I look at the Chiefs' safety duo as an example for what I mean.
     
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    bb plays a pattern matching cover 3 defense. The deep safety is the most important position on the defense and responsible for a lot of communication.
    The beauty of his defense is the safeties are interchangeable, as long as they can tackle.

    So I think it is possible he could go with two free safeties one day, but they better be good tacklers with high courage for it.
     
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    What I mean is that they prefer two CB/S hybrids, not one pure CB/S and one S/LB. As slow as Chung is, he really is sort of a CB/S hybrid. He's played a lot of CB in his day.
     
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    Just got done with the safeties at the combine. Lots of unimpressive people. McKinney, Chinn, Dugger to name a few guys that get lots of talk. Sure, they aren't going to look as good playing against air as they are contact players, but it still needs to be said.

    I'm carrying over Troy Pride and Essang Bassey as FS prospects that I like. You can add K'Von Wallace to this list; solid but unspectacular.

    JR Reed is my top S. Looks like an Eddie Jackson back there. True centerfielder.
     
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    bakes781 In the Starting Line-Up

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    I know we drafted Dugger, but J.R. Reed is still available.
     
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    Ducking Fugger better not have been drafted to play feckin Safety...
     

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