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Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by BaconGrundleCandy, Sep 13, 2019.

  1. BaconGrundleCandy

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    Same deal as other threads. S/PTP discussion/breakdown. Should get some serious consideration considering the age & depth we have.


    Tier 1

    Grant Delpit 6'3/205 - LSU


    Xavier McKinney 6'1/200 - Alabama


    James Wiggins 6'/205 - Cincinnati


    Isaiah Simmons 6'2/230 - Clemson


    JR Reed 6'/195 - Georgia


    Reed Blankenship 6'1/195 - MTSU


    Jordan Fuller 6'2/205 - OSU



    Tier 2
    Richie Grant 6'/195 - UCF


    Tariq Thompson 6'/200 - San Diego St


    Brandon Jones 6'/205 - Texas


    Greg Eisworth 6'/200 - Iowa St


    Antoine Winfield Jr 5'10/205 - Minnesota


    Khaleke Hudson 6'/220 - Michigan


    Damar Hamlin 6'1/195 - Pittsburgh


    Nigel Warrior 6'/190 - Tennessee


    Hamsah Nasirildeen 6'4/215 - FSU


    Daniel Thomas 5'11/210 - Auburn


    Quentin Lake 6'/185 - UCLA


    Joey Blount 6'1/190 - Virginia


    JR Pace 6"1/200 - Northwestern


    Alohi Gilman 5'11/205 - Notre Dame


    Tanner Muse 6'1/230 - Clemson


    Myles Dorn 6'2/210 - N. Carolina



    Tier 3
    Todd Harris Jr 5'11/185 - LSU


    Garrett Davis 6'2/210 - Houston


    Eric Burrell 6'/190 - Wisconsin


    Josh Metellus 6'/205 - Michigan


    Myles Woolfolk 6'/195 - N. Carolina


    Deontay Anderson 6'/220 - Houston


    Jarius Morehead 6'1/220 - NC State


    Kenny Robinson Jr 6'2/200 - West Virginia


    Kekoa Nawahine 6'2/210 - Boise St


    Robert Barnes 6'2/210 - OK


    K’Von Wallace 5'11/210 - Clemson


    Antoine Brooks Jr 5'11/210 - Maryland



    Tier 4
    Ashtyn Davis 6'1/190 - California


    Mikial Onu 5'11/205 - Colorado


    Jeremiah Dinson 6'/190 - Auburn


    David Dowell 6'1/195 - Michigan St


    Reggie Floyd 6'/220 - Virginia Tech


    Desmond Franklin 6'/200 - App St


    Jaylinn Hawkins 6'2/205 - California


    Shamad Lomax 6'/205 - New Mexico St


    Jalen Elliott 6'1/205 - Notre Dame


    Innis Gaines 6'2/205 - TCU


    Austin Hall 6'2/215 - Memphis


    Romeo Finley 6'1/215 - Miami


    Myles Hartsfield 5'11/210 - Ole Miss


    Jared Mayden 6'/200 - Alabama


    Patrick Nelson 6'1/205 - SMU


    DQ Thomas 5'10/200 - Southern Miss


    Brody Hoying 5'11/205 - East Michigan

    Hasan Defense 5'11/185 - Kansas
     
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    Hey @BaconGrundleCandy

    Where do you think Simmons will be best suited, as that Hybrid LB or SS type?

    I was watching Clemson last week and they said he runs 40 in 4.3 to 4.4. He seems to be an athletic freak that is also smart and understands the game.
     
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    Honestly Idk, first thoughts are hybrid. I think its a lot more important to pair him w a smart, creative DC.

    You want his explosion around the los & coverage abilities away from it but it takes a decisive defensive mind to really pull that out next level.
     
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    I'd love to see him here but i think hes a top 20 prospect kinda guy, but who knows.

    Just been trying to think of teams that would use his talents in the best way. Just looks a solid guy for the next 10 years
     
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    Minne, Buff, TB, Carolina, Denver??

    I like him too but nervous abt what the big shots think of him. He needs someone who really knows what they're doing. Otherwise look at Barron, Bucannon (who I really liked) & others. Multiple/hybrid guys really need a plan.

    Some coaches are still stuck in the past
     
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    We play a pattern matching cover 3 defense and the single most important position in that defense is safety.

    All our safeties are a little older now and at some point we are going to need a safety/leader capable of stepping in and continuing the tradition of strong communication and getting every body on the same page as far as responsibilities and coverages.

    Unfortunately, I have not seen anybody in this draft that is capable.
     
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    Burrows absolutely destroyed McKinney and the entire Alabama secondary.

    McKinney made a ton of bad calls.

    that was uglier than a godell family reunion!
     
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    The best safety I have watched this year is the kid from Georgia, lecountte or something like that.

    the dude is a ball magnet. He might not be draft eligible, but he is pro ready.
     
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    Alohi Gilman Declared. A little surprising. He was great this year but I thought he didn’t have as good of a year this year.

    He’s only a sophomore next year but Kyle Hamilton is an absolute stud for ND
     
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    Seems like a safe position to draft. I would of thought Simmons available until the last 20 or so days where he just blew up into a top 15 prospect.
     
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    Idk I think he was always out of reach. He's going to have an incredible combine as well.

    Davis, Winfield, Dugger, McKinny, Chin, Nasirildeen & a few others definitely worth a look.
     
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    Mentioned Ashtyn Davis here. He's a PTP for sure. Former walk-on. Played S/ST & excelled at both. Tough kid that doesn't mind getting dirty. Likes setting the tone.
    A bit hesitant at times the closer he gets to the line. Would love to see stop thinking or maybe he doesn't trust his quicks but seems to be doing too much thinking at times closer to the los. Seems like a smart player all around tho.
    Reliable in the back end. Smooth fluid player changing direction.

    Definitely someone to follow.
     
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    Such a chesspiece, would love to see him in a Belichick defense but he'll be long gone

    To me he's more of a chess piece than a traditional LB, but he'll be taken high/1st LB off the board in this LB prospect lacking class
     
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    Supposedly will run a 4.30-4.35
     
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    Antoine Brooks Jr
     
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    Factual?
     
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    Of course.
     

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